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tidying prusik cords
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Matthew Vernon
2010-09-21 09:47:05 UTC
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I got round to acquiring a few lengths of cord to use for french
prusiks (as abseil backups). I've seen friends with these neatly
stashed on a 'biner, rather than just hanging in the breeze, but I
can't find a reference on how this is achieved (something like
crochet, I gather). Anyone got a handy reference (or care to tell me
what to do?)?

Ta,

Matthew
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Peter Clinch
2010-09-21 10:13:35 UTC
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Post by Matthew Vernon
[first post here, hello :)]
Pretty much dead here these days. Folk have mainly gone off to the web,
see perhaps http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/
Post by Matthew Vernon
I got round to acquiring a few lengths of cord to use for french
prusiks (as abseil backups). I've seen friends with these neatly
stashed on a 'biner, rather than just hanging in the breeze, but I
can't find a reference on how this is achieved (something like
crochet, I gather). Anyone got a handy reference (or care to tell me
what to do?)?
Probably easier to stash them in a pocket IMHO. Hang things on a rack
if you're going to need to grab them while you're actually climbing,
anything beyond that just gets in the way.

Pete.
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Matthew Vernon
2010-09-21 10:42:04 UTC
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Post by Peter Clinch
Post by Matthew Vernon
[first post here, hello :)]
Pretty much dead here these days. Folk have mainly gone off to the web,
see perhaps http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/
Yuck, forums. Hey ho...

Regards,

Matthew
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Peter Clinch
2010-09-21 12:45:50 UTC
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Post by Matthew Vernon
Post by Peter Clinch
Post by Matthew Vernon
[first post here, hello :)]
Pretty much dead here these days. Folk have mainly gone off to the web,
see perhaps http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/
Yuck, forums. Hey ho...
In terms of interface, software etc. forums are IMHO crap.

But a usenet group with no content, no matter how neat the window onto
it may be, is rather pointless :-(

Pete.
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Mike Clark
2010-09-21 14:25:36 UTC
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Post by Matthew Vernon
[first post here, hello :)]
Pretty much dead here these days. Folk have mainly gone off to the web,
see perhaps http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/
Post by Matthew Vernon
I got round to acquiring a few lengths of cord to use for french
prusiks (as abseil backups). I've seen friends with these neatly
stashed on a 'biner, rather than just hanging in the breeze, but I
can't find a reference on how this is achieved (something like
crochet, I gather). Anyone got a handy reference (or care to tell me
what to do?)?
Probably easier to stash them in a pocket IMHO. Hang things on a rack
if you're going to need to grab them while you're actually climbing,
anything beyond that just gets in the way.
Pete.
Hi Matthew

It depends what your intended use is, and in your case you mention
abseil backups, if so then Pete's suggestion is fine.

However I tend to carry prusiks when ski-touring or for glacier travel,
where essentially you want them easily available for emergency rescue
situations. In such a case I normally have them tied onto a gearloop on
my harness or on my rucksack gearloop. To keep them tidy I usually just
coil the prusik around itself and then larks foot it over the gear loop.
You can of course clip it onto a carabiner, but you may not want to have
the extra weight of the carabiner unless it is also carried for another
purpose. Then you you may still have to decide what to do with the
prusik loop when you use the carabiner for that other purpose!.

Sometimes for glacier travel it may be prudent to put the prusik on the
rope right from the start so that if you or your colleague fall into a
crevasse the prusik is ready for immediate use.

Mike
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Dominic Sexton
2010-09-21 15:01:53 UTC
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Post by Matthew Vernon
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Hello :-)
Post by Matthew Vernon
I got round to acquiring a few lengths of cord to use for french
prusiks (as abseil backups). I've seen friends with these neatly
stashed on a 'biner, rather than just hanging in the breeze, but I
can't find a reference on how this is achieved (something like
crochet, I gather). Anyone got a handy reference (or care to tell me
what to do?)?
That was probably what I'd call chain coiled:

1 Take an end of the loop, wrap the rope around your hand and pull the
ends through the loop to tie a simple knot in the end.

2 Stick your fingers through the knot loop you formed in the rope by
tying the knot. Grab both parts of the remaining loop and pull them
through the knot, leaving the ends on the other side.

3 Stick your fingers through the new loop that you've just formed.
Grab both parts of the remaining loop and pull them through the knot,
leaving the ends on the other side.

4 Repeat the process until you reach the end of the prusik. Finish off
with a knot or clip the final loop over a karabiner.

To undo just undo the final knot or unclip from krab and shake it out
then undo the firt knot.

I usually do the second method shown here because I end up with a nice
neat result that is hard to snag on other gear:

http://www.videojug.com/webvideo/how-to-bundle-up-prusik-cords
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Mike Clark
2010-09-21 15:46:03 UTC
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Post by Matthew Vernon
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Hello :-)
So at least three of us are still monitoring this group :-)
Post by Dominic Sexton
Post by Matthew Vernon
I got round to acquiring a few lengths of cord to use for french
prusiks (as abseil backups). I've seen friends with these neatly
stashed on a 'biner, rather than just hanging in the breeze, but I
can't find a reference on how this is achieved (something like
crochet, I gather). Anyone got a handy reference (or care to tell me
what to do?)?
A useful way of coiling ropes for storage and transport. I use it for
long caving ropes. It allows the rope to be uncoiled fairly quickly
before stuffing into the rigging bags for use.

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Post by Dominic Sexton
I usually do the second method shown here because I end up with a nice
http://www.videojug.com/webvideo/how-to-bundle-up-prusik-cords
Yes that's a much better visual demonstration of how I coil prusiks. You
can as suggested in the vide clip the end onto a carabiner, or as I
mentioned, you can larks foot it directly onto a gear loop.

Mike
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<\__,\\ // __o || / /\, likes the mountains"
"> || _`\<,_ // \\ \> | Cambridge Climbing and Caving Club
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Matthew Vernon
2010-09-21 16:32:47 UTC
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Mike Clark <mrc7--***@cam.ac.uk> writes:

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Post by Dominic Sexton
I usually do the second method shown here because I end up with a nice
http://www.videojug.com/webvideo/how-to-bundle-up-prusik-cords
Yes that's a much better visual demonstration of how I coil prusiks. You
can as suggested in the vide clip the end onto a carabiner, or as I
mentioned, you can larks foot it directly onto a gear loop.
In practice, I have a small screwgate that I only use for a French
prusik to protect an abseil, so clipping my two cords into that (and
clipping the ensemble to the back of my harness out of the way when
not in use) seems the best option.

Thanks for the helpful comments, all :)

Matthew
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