Pennine grit

[Bernard]

Hi everybody, I'm not a climber and I don't think I have posted here before,
though I may have cross-posted from uk.rec.walking at some point. I am
trying to find out if there is a DVD or video of a 90's tv programme. I
think it was called Pennine Grit, was about half a dozen 30 minute episodes
and was probably only broadcast in the Yorkshire area by either BBC Look
North or YTV's calendar. It was a fascinating set of programmes that looked
at the history of climbing in the Pennine area. It covered topics such as
climbers involved in the mass tresspasses in Derbyshire in the 30's, to the
development of sport climbing alongside traditional climbing.

Does anyone remember it and more importantly does anyone know if I have got
the name correct and if it can be purchased?

Your help would be appreciated.

Bernard

[Sean]

Post by Bernard
Does anyone remember it and more importantly does anyone know if I have
got the name correct and if it can be purchased?

Hi Bernard,

I've never heard of it I'm afraid.
Also, I'm sorry to say, this newsgroup is almost completely dead - it sees
virtually no traffic at all and only has a handful of stalwarts still
lurking as far as I can tell.

Your best bet, much as it pains me to admit it, would prolly be to post your
question on the ukclimbing web forum here:
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/

Best of luck.
Sean
x

[Bernard]

Post by Sean

Post by Bernard
Does anyone remember it and more importantly does anyone know if I have
got the name correct and if it can be purchased?

Hi Bernard,
I've never heard of it I'm afraid.
Also, I'm sorry to say, this newsgroup is almost completely dead - it sees
virtually no traffic at all and only has a handful of stalwarts still
lurking as far as I can tell.
Your best bet, much as it pains me to admit it, would prolly be to post your
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/
Best of luck.
Sean
x

Hi Sean, thanks for that. I realised after I had posted that this had
become a sleepy group.

Bernard

[Kay Robinson]

On Wed, 13 May 2009 22:30:02 +0100, "Bernard"

Post by Bernard

Post by Sean

Post by Bernard
Does anyone remember it and more importantly does anyone know if I have
got the name correct and if it can be purchased?

Hi Bernard,
I've never heard of it I'm afraid.
Also, I'm sorry to say, this newsgroup is almost completely dead - it sees
virtually no traffic at all and only has a handful of stalwarts still
lurking as far as I can tell.
Your best bet, much as it pains me to admit it, would prolly be to post your
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/
Best of luck.
Sean
x

Hi Sean, thanks for that. I realised after I had posted that this had
become a sleepy group.
Bernard

It's all these B****y web forums that are killing Usenet, and of
course spreading viruses and plonking cookies. All web based forums
are inferior to newsgroups. Plain text is always better for serious
conversation.

Kay

[Steve Pardoe]

Hi, Kay, Sean, Bernard (I would in the past have added "& all", but not a
lot of point now),

"Kay Robinson" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:9OEPSpe6gmowY+F=***@4ax.com...

<snip>

Post by Kay Robinson

Post by Sean
Also, I'm sorry to say, this newsgroup is almost completely dead - it sees
virtually no traffic at all and only has a handful of stalwarts still
lurking as far as I can tell.
Your best bet, much as it pains me to admit it, would prolly be to post your
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/

<snippity>

Post by Kay Robinson
It's all these B****y web forums that are killing Usenet, and of
course spreading viruses and plonking cookies. All web based forums
are inferior to newsgroups. Plain text is always better for serious
conversation.
Kay

<snip>

I blame Bill. Gates, that is, since M$ Outlook doesn't come with a
newsreader, and hence many (most?) corporate intranets aren't equipped to
read news, even if they subscribed to a feed. Almost everyone can get WWW
access, though.

Steve "1998" P

[Kay Robinson]

On Mon, 18 May 2009 09:41:15 +0100, "Steve Pardoe"

Post by Steve Pardoe
Hi, Kay, Sean, Bernard (I would in the past have added "& all", but not a
lot of point now),
<snip>

Post by Kay Robinson

Post by Sean
Also, I'm sorry to say, this newsgroup is almost completely dead - it sees
virtually no traffic at all and only has a handful of stalwarts still
lurking as far as I can tell.
Your best bet, much as it pains me to admit it, would prolly be to post your
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/

<snippity>

Post by Kay Robinson
It's all these B****y web forums that are killing Usenet, and of
course spreading viruses and plonking cookies. All web based forums
are inferior to newsgroups. Plain text is always better for serious
conversation.
Kay

<snip>
I blame Bill. Gates, that is, since M$ Outlook doesn't come with a
newsreader, and hence many (most?) corporate intranets aren't equipped to
read news, even if they subscribed to a feed. Almost everyone can get WWW
access, though.
Steve "1998" P

Yes, probably the main reason. When I first went on-line the browser
hadn't been invented, nor windows for that matter. IMHO the only use a
browser is is for viewing images. They've become a way of checking up
on us and providing a platform for advertisers. In the early days of
browsers (and for some time) one could simply switch off images. The
bigger and faster that computers are built the more the b*****ds will
fill the spaces with ads :-(

Of course we must always remember that many climbers couldn't give a
monkeys for the internet and spend every day they can out on the crags
etc, as I used to. Sadly the bangs and falls I've had prevent such
activities now, so I spend time out with a camera.

Kay

Kay

[Sean]

Post by Kay Robinson
In the early days of
browsers (and for some time) one could simply switch off images. The
bigger and faster that computers are built the more the b*****ds will
fill the spaces with ads :-(

I don't know about other browsers but Firefox definitely still allows you to
turn off images, for specific sites or all of them. There are also a host
of add-ons available to block unwanted content. (Adblock Plus is very
effective at getting rid of banner ads and wotnot.) If you haven't
already, perhaps you should give it a try.

Sx

[Dominic Sexton]

Post by Kay Robinson
n the early days of
browsers (and for some time) one could simply switch off images.

You still can turn off the fetching of images (with Firefox & Opera if
not others). You can also turn of scripting and playing of Flash content
if you like.

[Mike Clark]

Post by Dominic Sexton

Post by Kay Robinson
n the early days of
browsers (and for some time) one could simply switch off images.

You still can turn off the fetching of images (with Firefox & Opera if
not others). You can also turn of scripting and playing of Flash content
if you like.

You can also get text only browsers such as Lynx

Mike

[Kay Robinson]

On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:20:23 +0100, Dominic Sexton

Post by Dominic Sexton

Post by Kay Robinson
n the early days of
browsers (and for some time) one could simply switch off images.

You still can turn off the fetching of images (with Firefox & Opera if
not others). You can also turn of scripting and playing of Flash content
if you like.

I've only just downloaded Firefox, got to get to grips with it yet. IE
hasn't had the availability of dowloading sans images for quite a
while. I always disable flash player unless I actually need it.

Kay

[Eddie]

Post by Kay Robinson
I've only just downloaded Firefox, got to get to grips with it yet. IE
hasn't had the availability of dowloading sans images for quite a
while. I always disable flash player unless I actually need it.

I think you can tell IE not to download pictures: Tools > Internet
Options > Advanced > Settings - Multimedia - Show pictures. (That's in
IE8; other versions are similar, IIRC.)

(But I prefer Firefox anyway.)

[Kay Robinson]

Post by Eddie

Post by Kay Robinson
I've only just downloaded Firefox, got to get to grips with it yet. IE
hasn't had the availability of dowloading sans images for quite a
while. I always disable flash player unless I actually need it.

I think you can tell IE not to download pictures: Tools > Internet
Options > Advanced > Settings - Multimedia - Show pictures. (That's in
IE8; other versions are similar, IIRC.)
(But I prefer Firefox anyway.)

Must have been blind Eddie, it used to be a first option, even had an
icon once. Thanks.

Kay

[Gordon]

Post by Steve Pardoe
I blame Bill. Gates, that is, since M$ Outlook doesn't come with a
newsreader, and hence many (most?) corporate intranets aren't equipped to
read news, even if they subscribed to a feed. Almost everyone can get WWW
access, though.

Most corporations actively block port 119.......

[Toby Speight]

0> In <URL:news:9OEPSpe6gmowY%2bF%***@4ax.com>,
0> Kay Robinson <URL:mailto:***@hotmail.com> ("Kay") wrote:

Kay> It's all these B****y web forums that are killing Usenet, and of
Kay> course spreading viruses and plonking cookies. All web based
Kay> forums are inferior to newsgroups.

Yeah, I've always hated these forums that want to use a slow web-based
replacement for something that we've had working perfectly well for
decades (at least two that I've seen, and certainly more by reputation).
It really bugs me not to be able to take advantage of all the things we
news-readers take for granted, like article prefetching, adaptive score
files, a single point of configuration (i.e. not having to go around a
dozen web sites when I want to use a different email address, etc.), and
all the rest.

I don't know if it's the September effect that's been permanent since
1993, or the avalanche of spam that's caused folk to desert Usenet, but
I think that 'cure' is worse than the problem!